I hope that they will shorten the WTS like the public talk. It would be great if I could
get in and out in 1 hour on Sunday morning.
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since they've dumbed down the bookstudy, making the whole thing shorter, they won't be re-hashing books as many times as they used to.
instead of getting everyone to replace their falling-apart revelation books, they simply won't be re-hashing.
since the pace of studying the actual book is now slower, it will allow the wts to maintain their once every year (or two) pace of releasing new books.. i dunno, it seems like a big loss for the wts to eliminate the book study group.
I hope that they will shorten the WTS like the public talk. It would be great if I could
get in and out in 1 hour on Sunday morning.
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i just read another thread about the co changes and plans for upcoming persectution.
i can speak for america and say that out constitution is based on religious freedom-this is the same constitution the society hides behind in all of their 'champion' court cases where they defend their right to go in the door to door ministry.
this country is sooooo far from turning against any religion, that we are even allowing terrorist religions to remain as long as they don't act against anyone (please no thread hijacking about that : ).. how in god's name do the jw's think the government is going to turn against religion and start persecuting them, and armagedon is to follow -right 'around the corner'????.
If I were still an elder I would say that God is going to put it into the hearts and minds
of the nations to get the thing rolling.
TBTS
the average life span of a dog is 8 to 15 years.
why do dogs grow old and die?.
we are taught that man grows old and dies because of the orginal sin of adam.. what sin did the original dog do?
The average life span of a dog is 8 to 15 years. Why do dogs grow old and die?
We are taught that man grows old and dies because of the orginal sin of Adam.
What sin did the original dog do? Did God make dogs to grow old and die to
remind mankind of what death is? In Paradise will dogs grow old and die?
We will feel sad if our beloved pet dies in Paradise? I guess I need to study my
Bible more.
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just when you think you've heard it all............in my research for my project, i was doing some digging around on the subject of the 144,000 and came across something in the wts's literature that absolutely stunned me and, being the generous soul that i am , wanted to pass it on to you to get your thoughts on this.. .
we all know that the society teaches that the 144,000 mentioned in revelation is speaking of "spiritual israel" and not 'fleshly israel' or even other christians in general right?
there are countless quotes throughout the literature that we are all familiar with that specifically state this, but to drive home a point, here are a few:.
Mary,
You have brought this up and now I can not stop thinking about it.
You are going to stumble me out of the Truth!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for your research. I so wish that Witnesses had the opportunity
to ask questions at the meetings rather than answer word for word what
is given them from the Witchtower Babble and Trick Society.
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i've been reading a few pages of threads from saturday until today and i can't understand why some,(actually very few) try to damage this site.
this is one of a handful of (ex)jw sites that really helps people get out of the organization.
the interaction that we have here shows anyone how we can leave the so- called "truth" and enjoy life!
Well stated Minimus
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hi i wanted to say hello, this is my first day on this forum.
i am 40 years old and was a jw from birth.
i am living in georgia and have lived in florida too.
Welcome aboard and welcome to our family.
TBTS
jehovahs witnesses are proud to point out that they are fulfilling the prophecy at matthew 24:14. jws are quick to point out that part of the purpose of the preaching work is so that jehovah can take note of how people respond to the witnessing, and thus can decide if they are worthy of survival or not.
last year, jws spent 1.4 billion hours in their preaching work.
so if we take: 6.6 billion people.
Most Witlesses go in service, not because they want to, but rather because they have to.
Elders go to be seen by the flock. Young brothers go so that they can qualify to pass the
mics at the Kingdom Hall. Pioneers go to get their hours. It used to make my brain bleed
when I used to hear the JW's say "that I have to go out in service Saturday to get my time in or
to get my hours up." The only way that the congreations can judge a persons spritual health
is by their meeting attendence and hours spent riding around in a car on Saturday morning.
If the JW's did not require the turning in of time at the end of the month there would be a crash
in the hours that are wasted in the "ministry."
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last week an elder from the platform said at the kh that "when children leave the "truth" it breaks the.
hearts of their parents.
" this has been rolling around in my brain and i thought that i would jot down.
Last week an elder from the platform said at the KH that "when children leave the "Truth" it breaks the
hearts of their parents." This has been rolling around in my brain and I thought that I would jot down
some notes that prove that his statement is 100% true.
It breaks their parents hearts because:
1. The children can now get a good educatiion and they will be in a position to give their parents some
financial assistence when the parents are retired and need help.
2. The children will not be sitting thru any more butt numbing, mind dulling meetings at the KH.
3. They won't get to go anymore from door to door knocking on doors of people who are not home
to offer literature that people don't want.
4. The children will start to use their brains to think and reason instead of checking them in at the KH door.
5. They won't have elders telling them that their dresses are too short or that their hair is too long, or that
their service hours are too low or what they can and can not do in the marriage bed.
6. They will now celebrate the birthday of their children. (It always amazed me that when a Sister became
pregnant from the KH that there would be a big baby shower and when the baby was born there would be
more gifts for the baby, but come the anniversary of that happy occasion it is now pagan to observe that.)
7. They will if the occasion arise, take whole blood to save their lifes not like the Witnesses who will not take
whole blood but they are allowed to take every freaken fraction that makes up the whole blood. It is like you
can not eat peach pie, however you can eat peaches, sugar, flour, butter, and water.
8. They will not be hearing 50 times a week that the great tribulation is near, close, very soon, so soon, right
around the corner, sooner than we can imagine, or at hand.
9. They will now have family gatherings at Thanksgiving, Christmas, and maybe even send their mom a card
on Mothers Day, and watch fireworks on the fourth of July.
10. They will plan for their retirement so that they will not be a burden on their children in their golden years.
But we all know the real reason why it breaks the hearts of their parents is because:
11. The children who do the above will now be destroyed by our loving God Jehovah at Armageddon with
no hope of the resurrection and the children will not live for a billion years in a paradise earth that is
run and managed by JW's.
Now I feel better.
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all jw's will openly confess that they have the "truth.
" the word truth means.
reality, actual existence, correctness, that which is true.
All JW's will openly confess that they have the "Truth." The word truth means
reality, actual existence, correctness, that which is true. All JW's also believe that
those wicked evil apostates do not have the truth. So why do JW's have such a morbid
fear of reading apostate literature or if you come upon an apostate web page to immediatly
turn you head and run for your life? Let's look at a couple of easy examples. Birch trees,
and oak trees will loose their leaves in the fall. If you came upon a web page that says
that these trees keep their leaves all year long could you prove that they were wrong?
Pure water will freeze and turn to ice at 32 degrees F. If some one said that is not true
that water turns to ice at 26 degrees F could you prove that they were wrong? A truth is
true because it will stand up to examination and scrutiny. If JW's have the truth why
are they affraid to answer questions about their faith? Why are they forbidden to talk
to people who once believed in Watchtower doctrine but now have freed themselves
of slavery to a corporation? The Witchtower Babble and Trick Society knows that their
teachings will not and can not stand up to examination. The only solution is to demonize
those who do not agree with the WTBTS and if you dare talk to them and listen to
them you will be thrown out of the congregation on your ass and none of your JW family
will ever talk you or help you. If I did not know better I would think that perhaps the
WTBTS is a cult.
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hi everyone, i'm new here, been viewing the board for a while, decided to join yesterday.. so i'm about 95% convinced now the wts is bogus, but i'm still in coz as yall know leaving is the hardest part.
i plan on doing a fade to avoid the complete disconnection, but first want to gradually help my gf to see things too.
in the meantime, i'm just wondering how many of you are still "active" jdubs?
I am still "active" in that I still turn in bogus hours. I have not commented in the meetings for
over 4 years. I have not done any preaching for over 9 years. I go to very few meetings. Just
enough to keep the heat off and to keep peace in the family. I receive my annual sheparding
call where I tell the elders the same stuff about feeling lied to about the 1975 change and the
change in the generation which has caused me to lose confidence in the end ever coming.
They sympathize with me and then they go on their merry way.
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